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and for now, it remains an internal pentagon investigation. meanwhile, you've been in the trenches, you're a career military man, you've been everything from a platoon leader to a commanding general, i want to talk a little bit about morale. as this investigation continues, general allen continues in his post as the top u.s. commander in afghanistan overseeing 68,000 troops there. does this compromise his leadership skills at all? and what does it do to morale? >> well, let me answer that on a couple of levels. first of all, activities like this, and the possibility that there might have been indiscretions like this from the very top guy gives a lot of fodder to those young troops. and so right now in a very cynical way and a very sarcastic way they're having fun with all of this, which is truly unfortunate because this is the senior guy. i can tell you what the forward operating base communications look like right now and they're extremely colorful. and so what it does for the senior commanders, they are still in the room with the boss and th
and for now, it remains an internal pentagon investigation. meanwhile, you've been in the trenches, you're a career military man, you've been everything from a platoon leader to a commanding general, i want to talk a little bit about morale. as this investigation continues, general allen continues in his post as the top u.s. commander in afghanistan overseeing 68,000 troops there. does this compromise his leadership skills at all? and what does it do to morale? >> well, let me answer that...
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and also michael vickers who is head of intelligence at the pentagon who has spent some time in the agency, and personally, as a former intelligence officer, myself, i'd very much like to see a professional intelligence officer occupy the post of dci. >> michael, certainly the scandal surrounding general petraeus has overshadowed his testimony on what happened in benghazi on september 11th, and this is what senator john mccain had to say over the weekend. take a listen. >> they said they wanted to not give classified assessment of what happened, because they didn't want to betray sources. well, if classified assessment changed the unclassified assessment, then why in the world would you keep that information from the american people? >> well, as we look back hindsight being 20/20, is this the modern espionage, classified and unclassified documents being released and going public to fit a political thenarrative? >> well, i don't know about the fitting a political narrative precisely, but analysis is a lot different from assumption. and these days, when there are so much coordination
and also michael vickers who is head of intelligence at the pentagon who has spent some time in the agency, and personally, as a former intelligence officer, myself, i'd very much like to see a professional intelligence officer occupy the post of dci. >> michael, certainly the scandal surrounding general petraeus has overshadowed his testimony on what happened in benghazi on september 11th, and this is what senator john mccain had to say over the weekend. take a listen. >> they said...
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the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour
the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula...
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those raising those concerns, you might not get that from cnn a spokesperson for the pentagon in many ways. >> our own notebook there, a body slam of cnn and the generals. i want to show you cnn's reaction. >> bob is not a spokesperson for the agency. >> i followed her coverage closely. >> just because she's written naughty things about you doesn't make her a spokesperson. >> what makes her a spokesperson is repeating a lot of pentagon claims. >> journalists who challenge the government are seen as oh, wacky outsiders, and the only thing that ever gets you in trouble is not reckless wars that kill hundreds of thousands of people, but sex. >> at beginning, i was thinking the same thing why is this going on because of a sex scandal, it's between him and his wife. but then, a few other angles came saying this could be a security issue who knew, who didn't know. i'm fine with all those questions being answered. what's weird and i understand from a different level is people forget they hold these positions, hey do me this favor, send me those emails, by the way don't you like my at-bats. t
those raising those concerns, you might not get that from cnn a spokesperson for the pentagon in many ways. >> our own notebook there, a body slam of cnn and the generals. i want to show you cnn's reaction. >> bob is not a spokesperson for the agency. >> i followed her coverage closely. >> just because she's written naughty things about you doesn't make her a spokesperson. >> what makes her a spokesperson is repeating a lot of pentagon claims. >> journalists...
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. >> the thing that was so strange to hear today was to watch the pentagon insist to reporters that there's nothing they know of that's untoward besides flirtation revealed in the e-mails between kelley and general allen. allen has had an absolutely star crossed tenure in afghanistan. he had scandal after scandal from the bails attacks that left 16 innocents dead to the koran burnings, to images coming out of marines urinating on a dead taliban militant, and he's been able to level with a lot of us in the press about the progress not really being as rapid as he would like and you see this happen to have allen swept up in all of this was kind of cataclysmic at the pentagon. a lot of us went to sleep thinking it was a scandal about general petraeus and then suddenly allen is involved in it. it was absolutely surreal. >> and richard, one of the things that happened over the years, petraeus has been glorified by the media, it is not something i felt capable of contributing to since i don't know anything about the military, never having spent a day in it but that doesn't inhibit other reporters
. >> the thing that was so strange to hear today was to watch the pentagon insist to reporters that there's nothing they know of that's untoward besides flirtation revealed in the e-mails between kelley and general allen. allen has had an absolutely star crossed tenure in afghanistan. he had scandal after scandal from the bails attacks that left 16 innocents dead to the koran burnings, to images coming out of marines urinating on a dead taliban militant, and he's been able to level with a...
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the pentagon says it's about 30,000 pages of documents. they may not all be e-mails, but a good portion of them are e-mails between allen and jill kelley. pentagon official telling reporters today in his words, they may have been inappropriately flirtatious. what does that mean? well, the word on the street is that he might have written some of these e-mails and maybe in some cases called her sweetheart. nothing more meant by it, we're told, than he's a virginia gentleman but, and it's a big but, on the other hand, defense secretary leon panetta ordered up a full-blown inspector general investigation, knowing he would set off a new firestorm across washington and leon panetta doesn't do that lightly. people on the other side tell us panetta would not have done it if there wasn't something to all this. >> right. the woman at the center of all this, this woman jill kelley, i'll turn to you, suzanne, on this. i want to play a tape, a 911 tape of kelley calling the tampa police to complain about people who were around the house, citing her sta
the pentagon says it's about 30,000 pages of documents. they may not all be e-mails, but a good portion of them are e-mails between allen and jill kelley. pentagon official telling reporters today in his words, they may have been inappropriately flirtatious. what does that mean? well, the word on the street is that he might have written some of these e-mails and maybe in some cases called her sweetheart. nothing more meant by it, we're told, than he's a virginia gentleman but, and it's a big...
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this week, the pentagon released the names of five soldiers killed in afghanistan. and finally, "your voice" this week. today's question comes from cheryl robinson who writes "what happened in benghazi was terribly tragic, and now we're hearing of another middle eastern war on the brick. let us and you the media not forget about the war that our own kids are fighting for us in afghanistan. why is there so little coverage?" well, because, unfortunately, very few people feel the way you do, cheryl. there is a war weariness with the public, and outside of campaign season, the war is not often mentioned. the administration talks about it largely to say we are leaving, but we should all remember that nearly 70,000 americans are still in afghanistan facing death and injury, and we should remember we have promised our combat troops will remain there for another two years. that's all for us today. thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news" with david muir tonight. george stephanopoulos will see you back here next week. george stephanopoulos will
this week, the pentagon released the names of five soldiers killed in afghanistan. and finally, "your voice" this week. today's question comes from cheryl robinson who writes "what happened in benghazi was terribly tragic, and now we're hearing of another middle eastern war on the brick. let us and you the media not forget about the war that our own kids are fighting for us in afghanistan. why is there so little coverage?" well, because, unfortunately, very few people feel...
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. >> just a couple miles from the pentagon, many of the patriots here work directly or indirectly for the defense department and its contractors. the defense industry is facing $55 billion in discretionary funding cuts next year unless congress acts to avertthis so-called fiscal cliff. in addition, several key tax cuts are set to expire that will have a direct impact on many americans. take a look at a couple with one child living in new york earning $100,000. their tax rate jumps from 25% to 28%. they could be hit by the alternative minimum tax, the child tax credit drops from $1,000 to $500, and payroll tax could be $2,000 more the next year. for a single person in michigan going to school half time, his tax rate would stay the same, but he would lose the american education tax credit and have to pay more than $600 in payroll taxes. and even though it's weeks before the changes take effect, the impact is felt because of uncertainty. 401(k) companies have taken a hit. and the next thing to watch for, the retail sector which makes most of its money in the final weeks of the year. blac
. >> just a couple miles from the pentagon, many of the patriots here work directly or indirectly for the defense department and its contractors. the defense industry is facing $55 billion in discretionary funding cuts next year unless congress acts to avertthis so-called fiscal cliff. in addition, several key tax cuts are set to expire that will have a direct impact on many americans. take a look at a couple with one child living in new york earning $100,000. their tax rate jumps from...
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problem is, if there was a seven-hour gun battle for that consulate, that's not fast enough for the pentagon to react. it just isn't. i've been in those situations. you have to have the pieces in place before you can respond. i've heard the stories about laser designators and they could have called in air support. listen, to use military forces inside an independent country, a volatile one at that, takes, you know, weeks of planning in advance. somebody did drop the ball. but i just don't believe the thing that the military could have responded, could have sent f-16s down there to hit the targets. it takes a long time to set that up. >> when all is said and done, do we have the case of a watergate style cover-up here or do we just need the answers to some questions? >> david petraeus has those answers. he is out of the cia now. if he sits down and tells the truth as he knows it, doesn't shave off the edges, we will get our answers. and congress will, too. we take it from the next step. but somebody, i'm sorry, should be fired for benghazi. should have closed that place down. >> robert baer,
problem is, if there was a seven-hour gun battle for that consulate, that's not fast enough for the pentagon to react. it just isn't. i've been in those situations. you have to have the pieces in place before you can respond. i've heard the stories about laser designators and they could have called in air support. listen, to use military forces inside an independent country, a volatile one at that, takes, you know, weeks of planning in advance. somebody did drop the ball. but i just don't...
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there's been jokes it's not a love triangle, it's a love pentagon. here is what's important on the public interest level. attorney general eric holder at a press conference today in new orleans to announce the biggest criminal settlement, the biggest criminal fines and resolution ever in american history against bp is asked about this soap opera in tampa regarding petraeus. and what he said is, look, there are a lot of things going on right now but the important thing is there was no breach of national security. if there had been a breach of national security, we would have taken this to the fbi -- the fbi would have taken this to the white house. they would have taken it to capitol hill. since there was none, we didn't feel like we had to share a criminal investigation. that's an important development. it's the first time he's spoken out on this. >> so there's nothing really there in terms of impact on the country's security. let me go to bart on the same question, the relationship between general petraeus and the reporter broadwell. you know, often
there's been jokes it's not a love triangle, it's a love pentagon. here is what's important on the public interest level. attorney general eric holder at a press conference today in new orleans to announce the biggest criminal settlement, the biggest criminal fines and resolution ever in american history against bp is asked about this soap opera in tampa regarding petraeus. and what he said is, look, there are a lot of things going on right now but the important thing is there was no breach of...
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there have been more and more tick tocks provided, minute-by-minute accounts from the pentagon and the cia and the state department. and at some point, there needs to be a reckoning because they don't always add up? look. i think you are one of the guy who is does try to play it down the middle like our own ed henry and there was a good question bijonathan carlton today. >> he did a great job. >> sean: i don't want to make a blanket media bias question. i want to credit you, you wrote a book, "the outpost: an untold story of american valor." you talked about 53 americans surrounded by 400 taliban, they are really outnumbered and you twloat book. i am reading it. this is an amazing story that i don't think most people know about. tell us a little bit about it. >> well, this combat outpost was put in this incredibly obscure corner of afghanistan at the bottom of three steep mountain, 14 miles from the pakistan border. the troops were originally put there to try to prevent the insurgents from coming in from pakistan. but the years went on and it became more and more dangerous, the reason
there have been more and more tick tocks provided, minute-by-minute accounts from the pentagon and the cia and the state department. and at some point, there needs to be a reckoning because they don't always add up? look. i think you are one of the guy who is does try to play it down the middle like our own ed henry and there was a good question bijonathan carlton today. >> he did a great job. >> sean: i don't want to make a blanket media bias question. i want to credit you, you...
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pentagon correspondent barbara starr broke this story just a short time ago. barbara, what is the former cia director expected to say? >> well, kate and wolf. i have spoken to a source, a long-standing source of mine who is close to petraeus, someone who is not a junior aide. petraeus wants to go to the capitol hill and clear this up. that petraeus, as cia director, knew almost immediately, that's how the source characterizes it, that al qaeda sympathizer group in libya was behind the attack. but the confusion emerged very quickly, as well. because petraeus and the cia had about 20 different intelligence reports, we are told, that indicated it was due to that anti-islamic film back in cairo that had sparked the riots. so, what you have here are two questions on the table. who is responsible and what was their motivation? what we now understand is petraeus will tell the committee those 20 reports or so about the it being a spontaneous riot because people objected to the film. those reports were disproved over time. but not until after petraeus made that initial
pentagon correspondent barbara starr broke this story just a short time ago. barbara, what is the former cia director expected to say? >> well, kate and wolf. i have spoken to a source, a long-standing source of mine who is close to petraeus, someone who is not a junior aide. petraeus wants to go to the capitol hill and clear this up. that petraeus, as cia director, knew almost immediately, that's how the source characterizes it, that al qaeda sympathizer group in libya was behind the...
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the other thing that some senior aides and friends of allen said in the pentagon and washington today was that initial impression may have been something of an exaggeration but it is a great detail. this is a story with a lot of great details that people are latching on to. >> jennifer: let's jump in over to petraeus. if allen is denying he did anything inappropriate the charges against petraeus who has admitted that he did something inappropriate, how serious are the charges against him since he's no longer in uniform? >> they're less serious but there is one potential wrinkle for petraeus as c.i.a. director. if the administrative investigations this week conclude that he leaked classified information to someone else who was not authorized to receive it, that could put his high-level security clearance in peril. if he were to ever try to get a job in the defense industry or as a consultant here in washington, he would be limited in the kind of work he could do but as someone who is out of uniform as a retired civilian, he's not subject to the same military justice that general allen
the other thing that some senior aides and friends of allen said in the pentagon and washington today was that initial impression may have been something of an exaggeration but it is a great detail. this is a story with a lot of great details that people are latching on to. >> jennifer: let's jump in over to petraeus. if allen is denying he did anything inappropriate the charges against petraeus who has admitted that he did something inappropriate, how serious are the charges against him...
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i'm not sure how that would go over at the pentagon. i mean, when you talk about someone going into-- as secretary of state, who maybe doesn't have the experience that some people want. i think on the other side, he certainly has military service-- >> heroic military service. >> he has military service, and that-- that's a great thing because not that many people from that generation do. >> do you have any latest intelligence on the petraeus. >> i don't have any on that. i think we're all on pins and needles. so many shoes dropped this week-- >> oh, my gosh. imelda marcos. >> here's what i think we have to watch. if you saw in the last couple of days-- it was tuesday night when we learned about john allen. at 1:00 in the morning this very dramatic press release that came from the airplane of leon panetta flying overseas that upon john allen, the it's so hard, you really need a flow chart-- very dramatic, very detailed senior defense official talking on background. but today, leon panetta was saying we're not coming to any conclusions. h
i'm not sure how that would go over at the pentagon. i mean, when you talk about someone going into-- as secretary of state, who maybe doesn't have the experience that some people want. i think on the other side, he certainly has military service-- >> heroic military service. >> he has military service, and that-- that's a great thing because not that many people from that generation do. >> do you have any latest intelligence on the petraeus. >> i don't have any on that....
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. >> senator coburn says the pentagon needs to stop being what he calls department of everything. he says the savings wouldn't be huge. $6 billion a year but there was a time when it was real money. chris? >> chris: there was a time, wendell. thank you. reporting from the white house. stocks were down again today, the dow lost 28.5. the s&p 500 dropped 2. nasdaq fell 10. south africa president pushing back from comments from a lawmaker critical of lack of leadership in face of widespread worker strikes. president zuma called the claim totally out of order and said the leadership comes in many different forms. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot looks at the continued turmoil in south africa and what is behind it. >> there were violent protests in south africa this week. striking farm workers clash with police, which left one person dead and several injured. >> this came after months of trouble between striking miners. 34 protesters were killed by police at a mine in august. it's the worth violence sense the end of apartheid in south africa 18 years ago. experts say th
. >> senator coburn says the pentagon needs to stop being what he calls department of everything. he says the savings wouldn't be huge. $6 billion a year but there was a time when it was real money. chris? >> chris: there was a time, wendell. thank you. reporting from the white house. stocks were down again today, the dow lost 28.5. the s&p 500 dropped 2. nasdaq fell 10. south africa president pushing back from comments from a lawmaker critical of lack of leadership in face of...
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we'll sort through all of this with chief white house correspondent jessica yellin, pentagon correspondent barbara starr and senior congressional correspondent dana bash on capitol hill in a moment. first, an israeli strike on gaza today kills the military chief of hamas and threatens to usher in a wider confrontation. at this hour, hamas is vowing to strike back and israelis say israeli ground troops are poised to enter gaza if ordered. the israeli strike killed ahmad al jabbary and his driver and in addition to his role as military chief, al jabbary was one of hamas' founders. the strike followed a surge of rocket attacks from hamas controlled gaza into southern israel. those attacks have wounded about a dozen israeli civilians since saturday. cnn's sara sidner is joining us now from jerusalem. sa sara, this appears to be on the brink of a crisis. is it? >> reporter: yeah. i mean i think we are on the brink of what could be a full scale operation by israel and reaction from hamas and the other militant groups inside of gaza. this all started back on thursday with the death of a 13-year-o
we'll sort through all of this with chief white house correspondent jessica yellin, pentagon correspondent barbara starr and senior congressional correspondent dana bash on capitol hill in a moment. first, an israeli strike on gaza today kills the military chief of hamas and threatens to usher in a wider confrontation. at this hour, hamas is vowing to strike back and israelis say israeli ground troops are poised to enter gaza if ordered. the israeli strike killed ahmad al jabbary and his driver...
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barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> thank you, barbara. >>> next the words of the president and the sights and sounds from this veterans day. >>> president barack obama laid a wreath today at the tomb of unknowns at arlington cemetery just before his speech honoring veterans of every generation. >> today our proud nation expresses our gratitude, but we do so mindful that no ceremony, no parade, no hug or handshake is enough to truly honor that service. for that, we must do more. for that we must commit this day and every day to serving you as well as you have served us. in this country, we take care of our own, especially our veterans who have served us so bravely and sacrificed so selflessly in our name, and we carry on knowing that our best days always lie ahead. on this day, we thank all of our
barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> thank you, barbara. >>> next the words of the president and the sights and sounds from this veterans day. >>> president barack obama laid a wreath today at the tomb of unknowns at arlington cemetery just before his speech honoring veterans of every generation. >> today our proud nation expresses our gratitude, but we do so mindful that no ceremony, no parade, no hug or handshake is enough to truly honor that service. for...
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barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> thank you, barbara. >>> next the words of the president and the sights and sounds from this veterans day. of tablets from dell. it's changing the conversation. ♪ a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more important to lower their cholesterol, and that's why, when diet and exercise alone aren't enough, i prescribe crestor. in a clinical trial versus lipitor, crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. [ female announcer ] crestor is not right for everyone. like people with liver disease or women who are n
barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> thank you, barbara. >>> next the words of the president and the sights and sounds from this veterans day. of tablets from dell. it's changing the conversation. ♪ a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to...
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she a few weeks ago gave a briefing here in the pentagon to the press corps. she may not be known much outside of washington, but inside the circle of military families, very, very highly respected. >> yeah, i read today she was one of those generals' wives that was accessible and part of the regular folks living day to day. today we heard that david petraeus wants to fix his marriage. has there been any word on how she is reacting to that news? will she stand by her husband? do we know? >> well, we don't. i mean, let's be clear, this is a deeply personal, painful and private matter for mrs. petraeus. she does not live her personal life in the public eye, very professional publicly. and simply is not one of those people in washington who lives her life out there. i can only imagine how painful this is for her. she grew up in a military family. if you want to talk about army royalty, it's holly petraeus, not dave petraeus. her father was a superintendent at west point. the record of military service in her family goes all the way back to the revolutionary war.
she a few weeks ago gave a briefing here in the pentagon to the press corps. she may not be known much outside of washington, but inside the circle of military families, very, very highly respected. >> yeah, i read today she was one of those generals' wives that was accessible and part of the regular folks living day to day. today we heard that david petraeus wants to fix his marriage. has there been any word on how she is reacting to that news? will she stand by her husband? do we know?...
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barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> thank you, barbara. >>> next the words of the president and the sights and sounds from this veterans day. that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. flexpen® is insulin delivery... my way. levemir® (insulin detemir [rdna origin] injection) is a long-acting insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults and children with diabetes and is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion, and headache. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life threatening. ask your healthcare provider about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include in
barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> thank you, barbara. >>> next the words of the president and the sights and sounds from this veterans day. that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a...
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. >> chris: jennifer griffin reporting from the pentagon. thanks. >>> the air force is changing how it selects those responsible for training recruits following a sex scandal in which dozen of women say they were improperly approached, sexually harassed or rapeed. an investigating officer said bad instructors took advantage of a weak oversight system where the supervisors did not adequately take a look at them. >>> david petraeus shows up at another place you would not expect to find him. that is later on the grapevine. straight ahead, president obama vows to stick to his ginguns, this time on taxes. ye. [ thinking ] woer what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relf ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. [ smeet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-
. >> chris: jennifer griffin reporting from the pentagon. thanks. >>> the air force is changing how it selects those responsible for training recruits following a sex scandal in which dozen of women say they were improperly approached, sexually harassed or rapeed. an investigating officer said bad instructors took advantage of a weak oversight system where the supervisors did not adequately take a look at them. >>> david petraeus shows up at another place you would not...
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it isn't just a triangle, it's a pentagon. that general down there, he is the top commander of our war in afghanistan. afghanistan, really? please. if our troops were really still fighting in afghanistan, don't you think we'd be hearing about that on the news instead of all this bull [ bleep ]? >> good morning. it is friday. it is friday, november 16th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have the president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. richard. >> good morning. >> chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. get over it. okay? get over it. >> get over what? what are you talking about? >> all of you are in here. in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> richard's in here? >> i don't know why. i'm serious. what's going on? also, look at this cast we have today, the author of "thomas jefferson, the art of power," historian jon meacham. is meacham here? meacham, look at him. >> lots of books. >> and willie, congratulations on your newest honor. >> than
it isn't just a triangle, it's a pentagon. that general down there, he is the top commander of our war in afghanistan. afghanistan, really? please. if our troops were really still fighting in afghanistan, don't you think we'd be hearing about that on the news instead of all this bull [ bleep ]? >> good morning. it is friday. it is friday, november 16th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have the president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. richard....
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that's still the subject of a pentagon investigation. how did it get to that point after starting out as a complaint from kelley about harassing e-mails from someone else? the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more than one internet address. news reports say paula broadwell, now known as the person sending harassing e-mails to kelley believed to send them from various places. depending on where the computer was plugged in, the sender would have different ip addresses. an expert on internet monitoring explains what the fbi likely did next. >> so what they did is they determined that she logged into this
that's still the subject of a pentagon investigation. how did it get to that point after starting out as a complaint from kelley about harassing e-mails from someone else? the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them...
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maybe potentially flirtatious but whatever they are, the general counsel at the pentagon has decided they are at least troubling enough that the inspector general should look and see whether the ig thinks they cross some sort of line. why the general counsel or ig think that we don't know yet but that's really the only sort of thing still being investigated, that plus the question of whether paula broadwell did violate laws on either obtaining or possessing in her home or home computer classified documents, the other last strand to be wrapped up. >> the correspondence between jill kelley and allen in some of these e-mails there is evidence that other people were cc'd like allen's wife, correct? >> well, no, not cc'd. my understanding is jill kelley and her husband had a joint e-mail account. they both used it so any e-mail sent to her would be seen by both of them and vice versa. >> okay. all right. pete williams reporting from d.c. thanks so much, pete. i appreciate it. i want to bring in jack jacobs, medal of honor recipient and msnbc military analyst. jack, it's great to have you
maybe potentially flirtatious but whatever they are, the general counsel at the pentagon has decided they are at least troubling enough that the inspector general should look and see whether the ig thinks they cross some sort of line. why the general counsel or ig think that we don't know yet but that's really the only sort of thing still being investigated, that plus the question of whether paula broadwell did violate laws on either obtaining or possessing in her home or home computer...
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somebody that smart when so much of the war on terror is prosecuted by the cia, to have someone from the pentagon with his background move over to the cia and head that was incredibly lucky for the country because there are few other people who could've made that change, survived moving from one tough bureaucracy to another and be such a great intellectual and forward-thinking person about how to protect the united states. >> the other part of this, obviously, is petraeus' legacy in afghanistan, and being the author of the book on counterinsurgency in a literal sense, to what extent was the implications of that doctrine of the policy decisions that he was part of running up to this are going to be ultimately much, much more important going forward than any -- i think than to go to john's point, who knows what this is. but right now, we should also be having a pretty healthy debate about when we switched from counterterror to counterinsurgency over there. >> yeah. >>> still ahead, newt gingrich also chair of the dnc debbie wasserman schultz, more "morning joe" in a moment. [ male announcer ] human
somebody that smart when so much of the war on terror is prosecuted by the cia, to have someone from the pentagon with his background move over to the cia and head that was incredibly lucky for the country because there are few other people who could've made that change, survived moving from one tough bureaucracy to another and be such a great intellectual and forward-thinking person about how to protect the united states. >> the other part of this, obviously, is petraeus' legacy in...